Heavy Metal was structured on a totally different financial level. It was slick, it cost more, it had to have newsstand reps going around to make sure it was placed properly. We didn't have that kind of set-up.....But I knew that they had taken a page out of Warren Publishing's book and moved with it. And moved very well.
.....1984 was not produced because of Heavy Metal. It was produced because it was our genre.
In contrast to Warren's memories of starting the magazine, in his deposition in January 2018, as part of Ben Dubay's plagiarism lawsuit against Stephen King, former Warren staffer Jim Stenstrum claimed that James Warren was at best a reluctant backer of 1984:
A (Stenstrum): For, yes, "1984 Magazine." It wasn't called "1984." It didn't have a title then. He said there's a science fiction magazine that he wanted to put together and he finally – we had been talking about that for a long time. We had all -- Bill and I had been talking about putting together a science fiction magazine over at Warren for a long time. We had horror, we had war, but we didn't have science fiction and Jim Warren apparently was reticent. He didn't want to do it. He didn't think that was going to be a seller but Bill did manage to finally talk him into it.
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BY MR. COX: Did Bill Dubay ever talk to you about his knowledge of science fiction?
A (Stenstrum): Oh, yes, absolutely. I mean "1984" was a science fiction magazine and we had discussions – in fact, early on when we were putting together "1984," he had wanted to enlist some high profile authors to do stories or at least use adaptations of their works. Kurt Vonnegut, Harlan Ellison, John Varley and a number of other names were -- but he quickly realized that it was going to be too expensive to even adapt these stories and he determined – Bill determined at that time that he would just use his regular guys.
When in 1981 Bill Dubay told Stenstrum he could take over as editor of 1984 and have complete editorial freedom, Stenstrum claimed that in actuality Dubay had no intention of relinquishing control: